Sunday, July 13, 2014

For anyone who would like to ask me "hard questions", and a little about people who think the source matters more than the truth

In the twitter exchange I referred to in the last post, C***** K*** said:
I tweeted back:
I haven't gotten an answer, which doesn't surprise me. For the record, I am always ready to answer hard questions.

But I think the real "hard question" is why social justice warriors never ask and rarely link directly to the people they write about. I suspect it's because they simply don't care about checking facts—what matters is their rage. I learned about a silly example in the comics world at With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility Bun Toons | Ty Templeton's ART LAND!!—the outrage du jour was about an adult superhero having sex with a minor, but the outraged didn't notice that the "minor" was drawn as an adult and referred to having drunk wine on her 23rd birthday. Perhaps the S in SJW should stand for "semiliterate".

Here's another bit from the twitter exchange that included Kane and Somerville:

  1. *** The information isn't different because of the source, though.
  2. I respect you for saying so, but for many people, the source matters more than the truth. •••
  3. Yeah, that bugs me. Truth can be anywhere. Conversely, so can untruth. I can't see people as all good or all bad.

Deirdre and I disagree on a number of things, but I will always have complete respect for people who know how to disagree ethically. As for the rest, well, Malcolm X's and St. Peter's advice to respect everyone still applies—but the respect that they get comes with my pity.

"Accept the truth from whatever source it comes." —Maimonides

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  1. By "abuse" they mean disagreement, right?

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    1. I've been trying to figure them out for years, and at this point, I think the best answer is "God only knows." Once you reject dictionaries and embrace subjectivity, you're with Humpty Dumpty:

      ""When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.""

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    2. That said, yeah, the sanest interpretation is "abuse" means "disagree".

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  2. I think they mean outing people who weren't in.

    Don't you hate when you didn't realize something was supposed to be a secret?

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    1. I take some consolation in knowing no one else seems to have known it was supposed to be a secret—even her buddy Tempest had to change a few links in order to give her retroactive pseudonymity.

      As for outing people, who am I supposed to have outed besides C&I? Somerville says I outed her, but when and where did I do that?

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    2. Uh, by "take some consolation in", I mean, "am a bit amused by the fact that".

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    3. I don't think anyone outside their clique even cares.

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    4. I suspect not. But every so often, someone will throw a hissyfit somewhere about how they've heard I'm a racist macho outing meanie, and I have to decide whether it's worth addressing. Here's an example on reddit that, so far as I can tell, came from nowhere:

      http://www.reddit.com/r/SRSBooks/comments/1g5nbq/reposting_because_a_certain_urban_fantasy_author/

      This sort of thing saddened me enormously until I accepted that cultists are cultists and all you can do is try to address the facts for readers who haven't drunk the Koolaid.

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  3. They think women are weak, don't they? They think men can take robust debate but women can't.

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    1. Sigh. It's true. They talk as much about protecting women as old fashioned male chauvinists did.

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